• Robert O Young DSc, PhD, Naturopathic Practitioner

Do Germs or Their Acidic Waste Products Cause Disease in Humans?



I have stated in many of my scientific articles, books and lectures that germs (the “germing” process) cannot cause disease but “germs” in-and-of themselves do produce metabolic acidic waste products (enzymes) called exotoxins and mycotoxins or simply acids that may contribute (NOT CAUSE) to disease states.


I have further stated that there is only one cause of sickness, dis-ease and death and that is the over acidification of the interstitial fluids of the Interstitium (decompensated acidosis), then the tissues (latent tissue acidosis) and finally the blood (compensated acidosis and then decompensated acidosis) due to an inverted way of living, eating, drinking, breathing, thinking, feeling and believing.


Over the years I have been questioned on whether or not bacteria can cause sickness and disease. This is an important question that has been debated for over 100 years. As you might know, the French scientist, Antione BeChamp, an adversary of Louis Pasteur, said, “the germ is nothing; the terrain is everything.”


Maintaining the healthy alkaline environment or terrain of the human body fluids is critical for good health and for the prevention of any disease. The human body is alkaline by design and acidic by function. That is, the body is designed to run on primarily alkaline fuel because all bodily functions create acids which must be largely neutralized or buffered to protect the body organs, glands and tissues from the acidic breakdown and the creation of disease and dis-ease.


The body maintains its alkaline pH design at 7.365 by eliminating gastrointestinal, respiratory, metabolic and environmental acids through urination, perspiration, defecation and respiration. When we eat anything, including highly alkaline spinach, there will be residues of acids that can be easily buffered from the sodium bicarbonate produced and released in the stomach. So what comes first the bacteria or the acid? What we have here is the chicken or the egg scenario. I would suggest to you that everything that creeps upon the Earth is the prey of life and nothing is the prey of death. That is, what can be nourished and consumed! Everything is simply trying to survive and then thrive.


Since our bodies run on energy in the form of electrons, the by-products of energy consumption is always an acidic chemical/toxic waste (just like the carbon monoxide exhaust from driving your car). When acids from the process of metabolism or respiration are not properly eliminated, they can spoil or ferment our cells that make up our organs, glands and tissues that then gives rise to biological transformations, known as bacteria.



So the answer to the question, “what comes first the bacteria or the acid?” The answer is clearly the ACID!


Acid is the bi-product of energy being used or consumed. Bacteria is then a by-product of energy being consumed like the smoke from a fired gun, or the spoiling or degenerating matter and not the cause of the spoiling or degenerating matter! ACID is the only cause for the spoiling of degenerating matter or tissue!


Years ago I read a headline on AOL News that said, “Two More Deaths Possibly Linked to Tainted Spinach.” The key word in this headline is “possibly” which infers that scientific investigators just don’t know! And, I believe that they know that they don’t know. But they are going to try and calm the fears of people –and so they are going to come up with some sort of explanation that they can sell to the public via the fake news.


What About the Acid - Oxalic Acid


But I am convinced that tainted or fermenting spinach which contains very little amounts of oxalic acid and not definitely NOT enough to make one sick, would ordinarily be neutralized or buffered by the sodium bicarbonate secreted in the mouth, stomach and intestines. Why? Because if spinach is that tainted or fermenting it would have a terrible smell, a terrible taste, and unlikely that anyone in their right mind would eat it or drink it if juiced. The states of ultimate sickness, disease and then death comes as a process of poor lifestyle and dietary choices that then lead to a state of over acidity. The oxalic acid from a few leaves of Spinach in a salad or a green drink could not possibly shut down the liver, pancreas, kidneys and heart.


Now consider this: Most people get their spinach from sealed plastic bags designed to keep the spinach fresh for short period of time. I would suggest there are 250 or so spinach leaves in one bag, NO SINGLE LEAF came from even the same plant. By the time the leaves are separated from the plant, washed and rewashed, tumbled and tossed, run over the multiple conveyer belts, those leaves came from all over the farm field, and sometimes from different truck loads and possibly even different fields–all in the same bag at your grocery store.


Have you ever seen the size of those commercial spinach fields? They look like a square mile or larger. And there is field after field after field. Perhaps we are sophisticated enough to track a bag from the consumer, back to the store, back to the packager, and back to the commercial farmer, and maybe even back to one or two farm fields. But the chance that the FDA or any governmental agencies is sophisticated enough to isolate e-coli bacteria down to a few plants or area of a field is beyond scientific comprehension and certainly most peoples confidence in the U.S. government.


In that enormous field, whatever they found, it is my conclusion that they would have found approximately the same thing anywhere in another field. And they could go to the next farm over and find the same results. Thousands of bacteria are everywhere as a product of evolution and a stage of life that is transforming based upon the terrain.


Have you ever driven through California or most other states and looked at the farms? There are thousands of cattle fields and hog farms in proximity to fields of trees, plants and vegetables. There’s e-coli everywhere. You have had plenty of e-coli come and go in your body. Fifteen million e-coli bacteria can sit on the head of a pin. I also would suggest that a hundred thousand people ingested spinach leaves from the same field, and if there was some E-coli present, thousands and thousands of people ate those leaves and DID NOT GET SICK!


What I do know and what I do perceive is that many people could conceivable had some miniscule amounts of bacteria, as we all do, from whatever source, and yet, the intravascular fluids, interstitial fluids, and intracellular fluids of these peoples’ bodies were acidic to begin with.


This internal-external distinction is important because it helps us in the treatment of the specific dis-ease condition as we change our focus from the bacteria to the state of over-acidity body pH versus the actual alkaline pH of the fluids of the vascular, interstitial and intracellular fluids.

If someone is taken to the hospital with whatever symptoms, they are then treated with a myriad of acidic components, including antibiotics, adding fuel to a fire already started. Rather than using acidic drugs to kill some harmless bacteria, the focus should change to reestablishing the alkaline internal pH environment with alkaline buffers such as sodium bicarbonate.


But hospitals do not do that because they are operating from the same wrong-headed theory as are many governments of the world, U.S. health agencies, medical schools, research laboratories, and lastly the 1,000 pound pharmaceutical gorillas that–along with your tax dollars–fund the whole she-bang.


To suggest that those individuals got sick and then died from E-coli found in the kidney is like blaming the smoke from a fired gun as the cause of death. Logically we know that smoke from a fired gun cannot kill.


We can even argue that it is not the bullet that can kill. It is the person that is pulling the trigger that causes the gun to be fired that causes the release of the bullet and then the residue of smoke. E-coli is the smoke. The bullet is the acid. And the triggering factor is the individual’s lifestyle and dietary choices.


Not for a moment have found in over 30 years of research that anyone, unless starving to death, would eat spoiled fermenting smelly and awful tasting spinach. I do not believe that people are that silly, and I am not about to believe the ridiculous claims that spinach or its minute amounts of oxalic acid was the possible cause of death as suggested by Western Germ Theory Scientists.


To justify their claims, these medical savants are now saying that E-coli is the possible villain in this fairy tale by suggesting that it is coming from migrant workers who are urinating and defecating in the fields around the spinach, or the nearby cattle and their excrement, or the pig farm, or the water run off that soaked an area of the field.


I can hardly contain myself from laughing out loud when organic farmers are using chicken excrement to fertilize the fields of spinach and other vegetables and fruit, and it certainly is not all “treated” fertilizer.


Here at Rancho del Sol, in Valley Center, California we have used chicken excrement in and around our organic grapefruit and avocado trees for its oxygen and nitrogen components. This is what all organic farmers use. So what would be worse, human excrement or chicken excrement used to fertilize? The point is, we must focus on the cause not the effect and the cause will always be where you find the poison, or the acid, not the “germ” or the “germing process”!

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As for Legionnaire’s disease this also is not caused by bacteria. It is caused from over indulging in acidic foods, drinks, air and thinking. And plenty have eaten the same food and DID NO\ get sick. And there are plenty of those who were sick that had been diagnosed with Legionnaire’s where no bacteria could be found. The reason? Acidic toxic chemical waste makes us sick not bacteria.


This is also the case with individuals diagnosed with HIV/AIDS, Ebola, Zika or COVID-19. They are sick but there is no virus present! So what is the cause? It can only be from an over acidic environment. So, we need to look at the acid contributing factors from our lifestyle and dietary choices!


The acid from the beverages we drink such as tea, coffee and alcohol. The toxins from meats that release nitric, uric, sulfuric, and phosphoric acids. Or the toxins from sugar like acetlyaldehyde or lactic acids. These are the true culprits or poisons that make us sick, tired and fat that lead to our eventual death.


Finally you asked the following questions: The first was…I was just wondering that when the germ finds a friendly environment (over acidic), can it multiply and create more acidic waste and therefore is there a possibility of exposure from Spinach or Kale leaves in an already acidic body?


The word “germ” comes from the German language which means to sprout or germinate. Allow me to digress for a moment. Germs are not really nouns, even though we think of them as “things” but they are not; “germ” should be a verb–or a noun derived from a verb. I think it should be a gerund. A word that ends in “ing.” It’s not a thing so much as it’s an activity. It should be called “germing” or "viraling" or "yeasting" or finally "molding"! Instead we say germination and germinating.


“Germs” are the germinating function of changing matter and are NOT species specific, that is, they do note mate or reproduce. The reality is that germs are not things but actions or reactions from a changing external or internal environment. The germ or germination or germing is the expression of that change in matter and should never be classified. Simply, E-coli is a stage of transforming matter and not a reproduction due to an over acidic environment.


E-coli is the change of matter or tissue in a changed environment that is pH sensitive. It is no different than taking water, a liquid and seeing the change that takes place when we change the temperature to zero degrees Celsius and the water changes to ice, a solid. It is still water but in a different form. And so it is with E-coli. E-coli is a form of matter that is born out of the once organized health cell with all of its genetics when the pH of the fluid environment becomes acidic.


The second question was…obviously E-coli and Kale have been used for ages in class rooms (because it doesn’t take much to provide it with the necessary ingredients for quick replication for observation) without hurting anyone, but if for some reason some crazy kid decided to lick his slide and the internal terrain was compromised already, would the e-coli (or any other bacteria) then be able to replicate internally and produce enough waste to tip the balance (though I would have thought it would take ages)? Or is that really out of the question?


Clearly the focus is bas-ackwards (as they say) in western etiology?


Once again germs cannot cause disease even if the child licks the slide. This experiment was done many years ago when Claude Bernard a French physiologist drank a glass of cholera bacteria with little affect other than some nausea. In fact, to prove my point I am willing to eat E-coli on fresh spinach leaves for CNN or BBC, if they are willing and ready for the TRUTH and willing and ready to REPORT the TRUTH!


Another question was….when a group of kids who have been mistakenly identified as being “struck” by E-coli from a bad meat source, is it simply that the “bad” meat has become so acidic that it is like drinking industrial solvents? Industrial solvents differ greatly, but yes, depending upon some variables, eating any meat is highly acidic and would be like drinking industrial solvent, assuming their quantities and other factors were similar. Another question was….would chemical tests of the suspect sources reveal the problem? Yes, if tested you would find an increase of specific acids, like lactic and citric acids in the suspected sources.


Question….are biological interpretations….just wrong?


You are right in your suspicions. Biological interpretation is wrong because scientists are focused on the matter rather than focused on the environment around the matter. It comes back to the fish bowl metaphor. When the fish is sick, do you treat the fish or change the water? Western medical science is focused on the fish, treats the fish and then neglects to clean up the environment not realizing that the fish is only as healthy as the environment it is swimming in.



This is true with the fluids of our body. If we find E-coli in the tissues, this is a transformation of the tissues due to the acidic fluids found in and around that tissue. There is no infection, only an outfection of matter giving birth to bacteria due to fluid acidosis.


The key to staying healthy is to eat fresh organic greens whenever possible, to build healthy blood, and to help maintain the alkaline pH design of our body fluids. That includes eating lots of fresh organic spinach, collard greens, broccoli, avocado, etc!

Stay away from the acidic foods, liquids, supplements, and treatments. And especially stay away from those faulty or “acidic” theories of western scientific thought that are based upon a false belief that “germs” cause disease — it could kill you.

The Fairy Tale


This fairy tale of E-coli, MRSA, HIV, EBOLA, ZIKA, COVID, etc causing sickness and death is just over the top, it smells of big Government, big Pharma, big Medicine and big Money, and I see lots of dubious irradiation cost and other toxic solutions just down the road every 500 feet - it is called 5G at 30 to 300 gHz radiation!

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